Webcartoonist vs Webcartoonist: The Tabloid!

THE END: WvW Screeches to a Stop as Embattled Editor Found Demented in Office.

2005-08-29T13:38:00.000-07:00

The editor and founder of Webcartoonist vs Webcartoonist, the mysterious figure known as WvW, was found in a questionable state of insanity in his non-existent office today. This prompted shocked rumors that the controversial scandalsheet figurehead had commited mental suicide.

He was found next to a half-empty bottle of schmoose pills, gibbering about whether "a comic that looks like a comic, walks like a comic and quacks like a comic is a comic."

"We think he overdosed on them." said one of the remaining reporters in hushed tones. "He was taking Freud on the side too. I think he was getting disconnected from everything and started saying stuff like "Can anybody stop this thing before my head explodes and my ears start to ring..."

"But I really didn't think he'd do something like that!"

Others however, said that they had already foreseen the impending fall.

"Yeah he was going around muttering 'We've been living life inside a bubble' or something like that." admitted another reporter, who shrugged. "We all thought he was just being philosophical but Regneva (the reporter who left because of the Harry Potter thing) did say before that things were getting a bit crazy."

However, there are suspicions of foul play. A half-torn memo was found on his desk. While the internet police have been reluctant to comment, it is suspected that the memo had been used to write a suicide note.

"None of us knew who he really was." Admitted another reporter. "He guarded his identity very jealously."

"Can we keep going?" he said when asked about Webcartoonist vs Webcartoonist's future. "I don't know. It feels wrong to. The least we should do is wait and see if a trip to the asylum cures him or something."

Contributor Mister Bristol was contacted for comment, but no usable quote could be attained through the sobbing. Some distinguishable words included "sorrow", "like a sibling," and, strangely, "donut."

Conspiracy theorists have pointed out it's just too convenient the note was torn where it would have revealed WvW's real identity. However, until the scrap is found, the real identity of WvW will forever remain a mystery.

Webcomics World Self-Detonates from New York Times Article Onslaught!

2005-08-21T15:34:00.000-07:00

We at WvW have decided not to post any links to any of discussions in the main article as you can't visit any webcomics-related site without seeing it being discussed, it would be pointless anyway.

However we thought it would be more fun for the readers to find them and post them in the comments section. Can YOU find a discussion on this topic that no one else has found before?*

Gonna catch them all!

*We are perfectly aware this is an impossible task, but try it anyway!

JACK THOMPSON AND VGCATS IN GRAND THEFT PARODY FRACAS: Thompson: "Dear idiot:..." "Stop, or else. got it?"

2005-08-08T06:30:00.000-07:00

News Story Origin: Digital Strips

Jack Thompson, the anti-video game advocate who believes that "gamers are on drugs", reportedly tangled with Scott Ramsoomair over a parody strip on WCCA award-winning webcomicVG Cats

The VGCats Site has documented the full exchange of emails here.

Ramsoomair has been accused by Thompson of harrassment, while Ramsoomair insists that Thompson was the first one that initiated contact. This is an action on which Thompson vigorously denies, although evidence of this not being the case is sadly lacking at this point in time. It can be noted however, that Thompson's denials grow increasingly frantic and bereft of rational debate:

Ramsoomair: I remind you good sir. You emailed me.

Thompson: No, you emailed me. HOnestly, are all of you gamers on drugs, or what?

Ramsoomair: I would have to say the same about you. Here let me forward the exact email you sent me.

Thompson: dear idiot: you initially contacted me. stop, or else. got it?

Ramsoomair: Or else? Oh Jack, you're a blue berry muffin of creamy fun. Forwarded the original messege you sent to me, back to you. You probably don't remember sending it. It's okay. It happens with age.

Thompson: Scott, this is your last warning. Don't send me any more emails. You are the person who initialed contacted me. I did not solicit the email. You will either stop or I will take legal action to make you stop."

The resulting fracas has started off several diatribes from others in the gamer-comics communities, including one Tim Buckley of the well-known gaming comic Ctr-Alt-Del.

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WCN accused of "Lying to Our Faces"!

2005-08-04T10:38:00.000-07:00

The newly launched WebcomicsNation Service has been accused of false advertising.

Matt Wilson, a poster at the Keenspot forums, launched an angry tirade directed at WCN, quoting a post from the WCN support boards that allegedly said:

"We say "unmetered" bandwidth, but we don't say "unlimited" bandwidth. If your bandwidth usage is causing a problem for the service as a whole, and interfering with our other customers' ability to serve their pages, we will want to talk to you about that."

Which was interpreted by the poster to mean "Summary: the bandwidth IS metered and we lied to your face"

"My thoughts are... that they call themselves the solution for professional cartoonists is hilarious. apparently if you like having your own web design, using CGI, PHP, or MySQL, or just having any control over your work in general, you're not 'professional.' and just think, you get the blessing of paying them 10 dollars a month for this glorious relinquishing of well-travelled experience.

This will be something to keep an eye on, a year down the road, to see what horror stories emerge, or what features (like "unmetered bandwidth") disappear when someone actually becomes successful (which is unlikely since noone will remember your url if it's in a folder). i still think the lack of personality or individuality is a serious mistake, but hey, it's up to you. you decide with your dollar."

Although Wilson denies intending to lead a smear campaign against WCN, he admits to having previous tangles with the MT-conglomerate which may have soured his relations towards Joey Manley...

" I keep finding his decisions questionable. I was myself involved in a short lived Modern Tales animation site that could've happened but didn't due to factors like this (and lack of communication... and RICH V STONE....)."

Joey Manley has yet to comment on this issue, but then again, we haven't asked him about it yet.

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BuzzComix Returns!

2005-08-04T09:51:00.000-07:00

After 3 months of downtime, ultra-popular web-comic ranking site BuzzComic has risen like an inefficiently-coded phoenix from the ashes. Crude rankings are disdained by those higher in the web-comic-echelons, but BuzzComix and Top Web Comics have become a key way for indie-web-comics to get traffic and publicity, and is considered partly responsible for the rise of RPG bad boy Order of the Stick.

Already, the smaller comics have clamored for their voters to return to the competition, garnering publicity for their sites. A significant traffic shortfall since May has devastated the field, and optimists hope the publicity will replenish their ad revenue.

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http://www.buzzcomix.net/community/viewforum.php?f=1

Penny Arcade and PvP Go to Warcraft!

2005-08-04T09:05:00.000-07:00

Having demolished their nemesis Squidi, Penny Arcade has turned to renewing their rivalry with web-comic-cartoonist-mentor Scott Kurtz of PvP Comics. According to Kurtz “It’s on!”

World of Warcraft is the popular massive multi-player online RPG that consumes all who play it with obsessiveness and leveling-up. PA and PvP, as well as other top comics like Ctrl-Alt-Del have committed their remaining mortal hours to leveling up their characters and ignored the normal summer slew of games. Many webcomics have begun jokes or story-lines based solely around the characters and mechanisms for WoW, as it is known on the street. PA was even hired to do illustrations for the official strategy guide, garnishing further envy from their independent-web-comic critics.

When Kurtz created a PvP-fan-based Horde guild on the WoW server “Dark Iron”, called Panda Attacks, PA responded by starting their own guild “Knights of Arcadia” as Alliance. Both guilds filled up very quickly due to the popularity of these web-comic giants, and had to cut non-active members to stay below their 500 player maximum. Soon that was not enough as the players continued to join, PA created a secondary guild “The Fancy Lads” which filled quickly, and PvP and PA claimed the server entire as their own. From now on, every combat and raid on the Dark Iron server will be for the honor of these dueling web-comic-communities. Blizzard has only responded with amusement and tacit endorsement.

Since WoW has already had imbalance issues in the Alliance-Horde ratio, the extra popularity of Penny Arcade is expected to only contribute to the problem. Already it is difficult for new characters to complete their quests because of how many previous characters have already caused “mass extinction events” as they compete for monsters to kill. As well, the overwhelming populations on these PvP servers make any lone character likely to be massacred by marauding bands from the opposing teams. Lag in the capital cities where teams try to find refuge, is reported to be “catastrophic”. It’s a war zone out there.

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http://penny-arcade.com/news.php?date=2005-08-01
http://www.pvponline.com/
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.aspx?fn=wow-realm-darkiron

Squidi Retires!

2005-08-04T08:25:00.000-07:00

Spoken of in hushed tones in comic conventions across the country, Internet ne’er-do-well and pixel-comic-cartoonist Squidi is abandoning the broadband as he has grown tired of this whole, "internet thing". “For eternity hereafter, squidi.net will be remembered only as a footnote - the guy who tried to sue King PA over some feet or something.” And simply put, PA won’t have Squidi to kick around anymore.

Squidi started a fight years ago getting in a tussle on the Penny Arcade forums about forum-goers who used his art for such vulgar and unpermitted purposes as forum-avatars. He threatened to sue the behemoth PA for allowing his icons to be used, and for the unsuing flame-war that soiled his reputation.

Despite iconoclastic dislike of PA among the more indie-webcomic-cartoonists, Squidi’s attitude and his use of the dreaded internet term of “copyright” earned him no friends among the web-comic-critic-circles.

Says Websnark forum-goer Shaenon, “I hate to say anything against the guy's essay because apparently it'll make him cry and possibly shoot up a post office, but his petulant description of getting interviewed by T Campbell – ‘He didn't want to talk about anything else, like how AMD has single handedly fought for the legitimacy of the pixel art genre it defined’ -- is one of the funniest sentences I've encountered on the entire Internet, and I hang out on John Byrne's message board. Actually, that entire paragraph is awesome.”

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href=http://www.websnark.com/archives/2005/08/perhaps_the_wei.html
http://www.squidi.net

Editor's Note: We originally mistakenly attributed the Websnark quote by "Shaenon" as "Shaeron". WvW apologises for the mistake and reflects once more why we cannot be accused of good journalism.

Pearls before SWIPE?

2005-07-26T10:07:00.000-07:00

DJ "Trouble" Coffman was surprised recently when he sat down yesterday to read his favorite newspaper comic, Stephan Pastis's Pearls Before Swine. It appeared that Coffman and cohort Bob McDeavitt's Brick of Silence, an ongoing gag in the Yirmumah strip, made its first newspaper appearance -- as a towel -- in this strip.

DJ Coffman, usually one to shy away from controversy and the spotlight, had this to say in his blog about the strip:

"We're making their jobs much easier, aren't we? Too bad we can't steal their watered down garbage that's fit for papers, eh? Nah, that stuff won't fly online. Of course, we here at Yirmumah can't PROVE any of this.. it's just, uh, 'speculation' and 'commentary'. yeah.. that's the ticket."

Could this lead to a whole line of swipes from the cartoonists in the print world? Should we expect a blue troll to appear and eat Cathy? Will Garfield start playing video games and spew profanity? The possibilities are endless. Endless and delicious.

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William G Switches to Selling Phonecards?

2005-07-26T09:17:00.000-07:00

Headline lifted from Comixpedia Forums

Not long after William G took down his controversial Delineated Life blog, a new blog has appeared in its place... selling Phonecards.

While for one momentary moment it was wondered if William G had decided to ditch webcomics for phone cards, it was soon revealed that the opportunistic company decided to take advantage of the hits generated by his previous notoriety and snapped up the blogger account name.

"Okay. I did get swiped. I'm not bothered by it. (But I recently checked it out, and I am annoyed that a couple of variations of my name as a URL are being cyber-squatted, or used.) "...

"The best I can figure out why they swiped my old blog URL is because all of the more popular expat in Korea blogs have it linked and they're using it for the click through traffic. Kinda sleazy, but you don't run a business without having a few shit-stains on your soul. " says William G

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[Editorial] Websnark advocates Socialism!

2005-07-25T17:06:00.000-07:00

Note from Editor: The following is an editorial by our reporter.

In response to MacHall’s stirring denunciation of state-controlled enterprise on Monday, un-American web-comic-critic-journalist leapt into the fray with yet another tirade in favor of state-controlled medicine.

The widespread liberal bias in web-comics is widely known, and many web-comic-cartoonists living in abject poverty favor a national system. On the other hand, without medicine, many web-comic-cartoonists are hoping the newspaper-comic-author-aristocracy will be faster in making way for the new generation.

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http://www.machall.com/index.php?strip_id=341
http://www.websnark.com/archives/2005/07/w_there_are_tra.html

CONNECTI-CON FACING BANKRUPTCY: Debts in Excess of $30k!

2005-07-21T04:21:00.000-07:00

Matt Daigle and Briana Benn, the two organisers of the webcomics-centric convention, are reportedly $34,148.50 in debt after the sleazy Connecticut Convention Center allegedly inflated the bill for 'additional expenses' from $10k to over three times that amount.

"Due to a change in management and policy at the University of Hartford, where ConnectiCon was hosted for the first two years, the convention was forced to find a new home in 2005."..."They moved ConnectiCon to the brand new Connecticut Convention Center."

"Despite throwing another wonderful convention this year, they did not break even. In fact, due to the Convention Center being so new, and through a series of misunderstandings between ConnectiCon and Connecticut Convention Center staff, there were a lot of unforeseen expenses tacked on at the last minute. "

"They have treated webcomics like royalty for the past three years and now, in their hour of need, dozens of webcomic creators and other artists have banded together to organize this fund. "

In other news, Robert 'Tangents' Howard believes that a fund should be set up for "webcomic artists in need".

"What's needed is a Webcartoonist Assistance Fund. I'm not sure how we'd go about and create this; who would hold the funds? Who would decide which cartoonist is in need? What constitutes need? Still, a Webcartoonist Assistance Fund would be a viable entity, once the foundations of it are laid down. It could be funded by donations by fans and by cartoonists who want to put a little something in, to help out others in need or even on the off chance that they themselves are in need further down the line."

Rumours now abound of another Live8 concert where the new slogan is "Make Webcomics Poverty History".

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Mitch Clem Left With Nothing To Say?

2005-07-20T21:45:00.000-07:00

Mitch Clem, the punk rock princess of the webcartoonist world, has let a Wednesday pass without updating his beloved strip Nothing Nice to Say. This follows installments consisting mostly of stick figures yelling angrily and using the worst webcomic grammar outside of a recycled sprite comic.

Could this be an indication that Clem has given up on his fans? Was Mitch caught listening to a Backstreet Boys CD and dragged out of his house by loyal readers? Will we see another Nothing Nice installment in the future or can I finally stop talking to the guy at the pool hall who explains all the music jokes?

STEVE BRYANT "DRESSES-DOWN" TYCHO: Is There Something Between Them?

2005-07-20T04:41:00.000-07:00

While the promise of a death-match between Scott McCloud and Penny-Arcade's Tycho at the Comic-Con petered out, another conflict blossomed between the PA magnate and Eisner Award Nominee Athena Voltaire's creator, Steve Bryant.

"I was over at Comic Relief trying to track down a Sinfest collection, and when I asked a person with an exhibitor badge facing into the aisle if they had it, he informed me in no uncertain terms that not only did he not work there, he was super pissed off at me. It was Steve from Athena Voltaire, about whose work I had said something mean in passing three months ago. " said a rather rattled Tycho.

"That's never really happened to me, had a man straight-up dress me down right to my face,"... "Still, I think I could have taken him.".

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Kurtz Loses Eisner, Wins Spit

2005-07-19T15:19:00.000-07:00

After receiving the crushing news of his defeat in the Best Humor Writer/Artist category to Kyle Baker at the 2005 Eisner awards, Scott Kurtz watched as failed expectations were followed by a hail of expectoration.

Mr. Kurtz was quick to defend the act of the spitter, stating the incident may have been accidental. "This guy with dark hair came up to the booth, He said something, spit hit me in the face and I recoiled. He immediately turned around and walked off. I'm not sure if he was making a statement or if he was a fan who accidentally spit on me and then ran off in an embarassed panic," stated Mr. Kurtz at pvponline.com. Did he forget to add, "I've always enjoyed being spit on and hope my defense of the anonymous spitter leads to more easily-forgiven anonymous spitters in the future"?

http://www.pvponline.com

KeenSpot Panel Gone Missing! Or Not!

2005-07-19T14:05:00.000-07:00

KeenSpot changing name! Or not!

No official word yet has leaked out over KeenSpot 2 hour panel and announcement at Comic-Con international. The secrecy and mystery revolving around the panel, which was promised to have some big announcement in the wake of defections to Blank Label Comics, has confused many in the web-comic-journalist-commentary community.

Quote forum contributor Paul S. “Something tells me the big outing of this information shouldn't have been in the comments section of Websnark. Get on the friggin' stick, Keenspot!”

One rumor is that KeenSpot announced a dramatic new name change – to ToonSpot! And then were booed off the stage.

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Websnark Poster Spoils Harry Potter

2005-07-19T05:35:00.000-07:00

By the mysterious means known only to internet drama, a thread on the Spotting of Two Lumps degenerated into a flamefest when DJ Coffman of Yirmumah callously posted the biggest spoiler in the book in the comments section.

"Congratulations, you've claimed my internet-flame virginity. Is that the point? Do you get to laugh your ass off at the thinskinned moron fangirl now? Do you get to sneer at play the world's tiniest violin for my precious, precious recreational reading enjoyment? Fuck. You." says an enraged HP book fan.

The delighted DJ Coffman chortled and proceeded to shamelessly merchandise.

In other news, WvW reporter Regneva resigned from WvW, citing having the book spoiled for her "the last straw".

As a result, WvW is temporarily on hold until we can get new people in. We are currently considering a new open posting system, which will allow regular news submitters to directly post to the blog. So if you're interested in writing for WvW and possess a Blogger account, contact our email address and we will be happy to consider you.

Editor's Note: As should be obvious, with the intake of two new reporters, WvW is no longer on hold. However, we are still taking in more reporters, so if you're still interested,
contact us!

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The Mysterious Disappearance of William G

2005-07-10T03:21:00.000-07:00

WvW source Frank Lee writes: "It looks like all of the fights he's had of late has shaken William's desire to toon. Maybe this retreat will be a rebirth for G. I'm sure that this won't be the last that we hear from the man."

The only remnant of the existence of Notorious William G is a short message on his comic site: "Okay, some people are getting hurt feelings over my "get stuffed" message that I didnt intend to, so let me rewrite this more simply: I dont enjoy this any more. I'm not going to keep doing something that's become a thorn in my side. That's it. The site will go down soon.

- William G"

WvW reporter Regneva comments: "I'm sad to see NWG go. He had some interesting things to say. Too bad he was always so condescending when saying it he made the webcomics world to hot to hold him. I bet he'll show up again under some mysterious psuedonym."

We at WvW bid The Notorious William G a fond farewell and thank him from providing so much fodder over the past months.

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Garrity Opts-Out from Comic Nation Service

2005-07-10T02:58:00.000-07:00

A direct fallout from the Comic Nation Scandal, critically acclaimed webcomic artist Shaenon Garrity opted to remove her comics from the listings of the Comic Nation site due to the unprofessional behaviour of the admins.

"I don't want to be involved with a service run by people who show the lack of professionalism and common courtesy that you've shown on this thread and on your own site. It's just an accident waiting to happen.

I don't care if Aerie started it, or if she was being unreasonable, or if she's just a sucky cartoonist and you're better off without her. This is not the behavior of a company with which I want my name or work associated.

Shaenon Garrity
www.narbonic.com"

This has led to accusations from Comic Nation staff "Egarwen" that Aeire has started an agenda"to attempt to (and, judging from Shaenon's post, she's started already) shut down a site that provides a service that a lot of webcomic readers find helpful out of spite?"

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Comic Nation Drama: Aeire Responds

2005-07-10T02:55:00.000-07:00

A visibly upset Aeire was quick to respond to the comments of the Comic Nation staff:

"To those wondering what happened - these guys put my comic on a ratings site without asking my permission or bothering to check and see if that was okay..." "...I hear about it and send them an email saying that I would like to be removed from their list as I don't want to be on a ratings site. It was polite, it wasn't 'bitchy', it was a request..."

"They refused to take me off. They flat-out said no." "...Words were exchanged, my comic was removed, eventually, after an undue amount of hassle on my end that could have been spent working on my "sucky piece of comic shit", as he so eloquently put it..."

"...They informed me that they were taking the ratings system off of their website and attempted to wheedle me into staying by doing so, I told them flat-out that frankly after dealing with their 'staff' I had no interest in being affliated with their website, ever, and I didn't really care if it was a ratings site or not at this point."

"...I was told back a week or two ago or whenever it was by a close friend of mine that my comic was back on their list again, so I sent them an email asking them to remove it and telling them that I had no wish to affiliate with their website. They sent me a reply very quickly and said they would look into it, and then sent me another a little while later apologizing and saying that my site would be removed, and it was. I was at that point quite impressed with the amount that their 'customer service' had matured and was pleased to note that I didn't have to argue, and was happy."

"So now I look on Websnark and see this thing, and I was about to make a comment and let you know, quietly, that my website would not be on their list."... "...And then I see this bullshit post on their forums. Hey wow guys. Way to be mature. Way to be 'professional'. "... What the shit. What a bunch of petty, disgusting, immature children..."

"...You've just guaranteed that I am going to tell everyone I know in the industry about your petty bullshit. Way to go there buddy."

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Comic Nation Site Faces Criticism for Unprofessional Behaviour

2005-07-10T02:33:00.000-07:00

A recent outroar was the result of the discovery of several insulting comments by Comic Nation administrators which were directed towards popular comic artist Aeire after the latter repeatedly requested to have her comic removed from the listings.

"So Aerie has somehow discovered our horribly, illicit pinging of her site once again, and bitched accordingly. Just for the record, we don't really care." -- Cthulu Maccabi (Comic Nation Administrator)

"It's gone. Good riddance you sucky piece of comic shit!" -- Bono (Comic Nation Administrator)

Although the comments have been removed from the site of the original posting, they have already been immortalized in the Websnark thread that publicized the discovery.

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Hacker Attacks Keenspace and Gossamer Commons

2005-07-05T02:43:00.000-07:00

A couple of webcomics sites, including the Keenspace forums and the webcomic Gossamer Commons were hacked by a "black-hat hacker" who then modified the pages to display the message "spykids spykids" on the front pages.

Coming in the wake of the infamous Modern Tales hacking several months ago, the webcomics community have begun to speculate that somewhere out there, there is a hacker who has a personal vendetta against webcomics.

"Why are they doing this?" An irritated webcomic artist who refused to be named said. "God, I mean, why could anyone hate webcomics enough to attack them this much?!"

Others were less congenial, declaring "Somebody's going to die for this.".

The "spykids" hackers attentions do not seem to be confined to webcomics however, as sites such as this have also been defaced by the malicious attacker.

The non-existent webcomic police have urged the people to be vigilant against such attacks, warning that the psychopath would not be satisfied with just his two recent victims.

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Google Ads' Horrible Goof-Up?

2005-07-04T15:11:00.000-07:00

On the heels of our previous report that Google Ads accused Howard Taylor of Click Fraud, we at WvW received a note from Howard Tayler himself saying that "Google reinstated me on Friday. I haven't put the ads back up yet because, well, I just finished take them DOWN, but I'll get 'em back up sometime next week."

No further information was provided as to what exactly was the nature of the 'fraud' accusation or whether it was a mistake, but what is certain that this affair has been a serious blow to the confidence of the I.W.M (Independent Webcomics Movement). It is unknown what effects this may have on the non-existent upcoming webcomic general elections.

Howard Tayler Accused of Google Ads Click Fraud!

2005-07-02T15:41:00.000-07:00

Howard Tayler, creator of Schlock Mercenary and enthusiastic advocate of Google Ads, has been paradoxically accused of click fraud by Google Ads itself.

Howard says: "Google Adsense was working swimmingly until last Thursday morning, when Google emailed me and suspended my account for "invalid clicks." "... "It is possible that well-meaning fans simply outdid themselves and clicked too much. It is also possible that Darth Hackamous and his army of clickdroids deliberately targetted my account."

"Google's Terms of Service allow them to say nothing further on the matter, and they've said lots of that. At this point the only people I have enough information to get angry at are nameless Google employees whose employer can sue me for defamation thanks to these same Terms of Service. "

In other news, another notorious webcomic artist reportedly accused Tayler of including unrelated meta-keywords on his site meta-tags.

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When Search Engines and Webcomics Collide!

2005-07-01T03:58:00.000-07:00

Search Engine Comic Strip have chosen to jump in on the recent McCloud Micropayments Debacle and Google's recent foray into micropayments with killer cow burgers for everyone.

"...for us toony-types to declare micropayments don’t work,"... "is similar to saying a new kind of burger will never sell, just because the Super-Duper Cow-Killer Burger isn’t selling at Uncle Bob's Barn o' Beef. Let's let McDonald's have a try, shall we?"

While the strip creators candidly admit: "This strip is designed to confuse both groups.", "What we have to say about micropayments," says Campbell, "is largely irrelevant."

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First Web-Only Comic Celebrates 10th Anniversary

2005-06-29T03:49:00.000-07:00

Webcomic ancestor Argon Zark celebrated his 10th birthday recently.

"The first Argon Zark! page was posted on June 27, 1995.

As of June 27, 2005 it has been on the Web continuously for 10 years.

Argon Zark! was the first comic created specifically to be published on the World Wide Web, and is still the longest running webcomic."

By all reports Argon Zark, despite his advanced age, is still going strong, and only gets rheumatic attacks on rainy Sundays.

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Orange Rocks: "I Knew They Didn't Copy Me"

2005-06-24T16:51:00.000-07:00

Mr. Orange Rocks, who previously accused WvW of copying his idea for a webcomics tabloid, has reportedly admitted that he was well aware that WvW did not, in fact, copy his idea when he made the initial accusation.

Mr. Rocks, however, neatly avoided answering why he allegedly blatantly lied and made the statement "What's this here, by the way? I think they've copied me." when by his own words, he admitted: "I knew they didn't copy me.". Instead, he deftly changed the topic and attempted to make light of the mathematical skills of the WvW team.

"It's strange they can't put two and two together" says Mr. Rocks.

When asked for a comment, the WvW Editor replied: "WTF? Are you sure he's looking at the same question we were discussing?"

Other members of the WvW staff were more accommodating, some even going as far as to admit ever since the advent of computers, their mathematical skills had rusted somewhat. "It's true." admitted WvW reporter Regneva. "My calculus is so bad, I can't remember how to do an integration on a quadratic function anymore."

In other news, the three original idea founders of the tabloid over at Webcomic Finds appear to be content with WvW's royalty renumeration offer after the stealing of the WvW idea.

"It's a relief the charges have been dropped on both fronts." says the WvW Editor. "Now that this terrible crisis is over, we can put it behind us and get on with our lives."

News has surfaced that Both WvW staff and Mr. Rocks are in talks with Martin Bashir to make a behind-the-scenes documentary, entitled "Webcartoonist Versus Webcartoonist Versus Orange Rock: The True Story Behind the Crisis ".

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Note: Just in case someone missed the disclaimer posted on every page, if you believe and take everything in this article seriously, then there's a guy in Nigeria who needs a partner in smuggling a suitcase with a few million American Dollars out of the country.

William G to Comic Fanboys: "Go Get F*cked"

2005-06-24T12:43:00.000-07:00

The Notorious William G says "I admit that a few years ago that I too was one of those starry-eyed dreamers who read Reinventing Comics and believed in Scott McCloud's pie in the sky predictions. " ..."It was the idea that, by going to the web, you could leave behind the vile stain of fanboyism that turned print comics into the steaming pile of shit they're barely digging themselves out from under today."

"I believed in the idea that ANYONE could get into comics, and with them would come new ideas, new stories, new methods of presentation. And then finally, the medium I love, the medium of comics would become something EVRYONE could enjoy. "

"I began to realize that instead of the internet providing comics with some sort of release from the Branch Dividian-like nature of you comic fanboys, all it had done was given you a new avenue in which to turn the common person off of comics. So, in my frustration with your shrill hositlity towards anyone who wasn't willing to follow of your cliquish behaviour and thunderous group-think, I returned with some of my own hostility."

"Not smart on my part, but it's really easy to cover yourself in shit when you're dealing with animals."...Read More

Note: We at WvW apologise if the headlines seem to be repetitive. We swear we didn't cut and paste this from the previous posts. Honest!

We also would like to give a nod of thanks to the numerous people who mailed in about this. Many bones to pick out there, yes?

Blank Label Comics Plots To Take Over Poland

2005-06-22T20:58:00.000-07:00

The Blank Label Website writes: "Dave Kellett, creator of Sheldon, and Greg Dean, creator of Real Life,"... "have joined forces with Blank Label Comics."

Blank Label Comics is the new webcomics collective initially formed by pilgrims from the recent Keenspot Exodus.

A commentor named Anthony says: "Oh man, Blank Label comics is totally going to take over Poland at this rate. "

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Webcomics Tabloid Accused of Copying Some Flash Site

2005-06-21T19:13:00.000-07:00

In a shockingly recursive twist of events, Webcartoonist vs Webcartoonist: The Tabloid! itself has been accused of copying the idea of a webcomics tabloid from some flash site we have never heard of called "Orange Rocks".

The owner of the Orange site, who has yet to be identified properly, declares: "I think they've copied me. I mailed them and asked if they wanted to do some kind of joint thing, but they ignored me, so it's obvious they're total jerk-heads. I can't imagine their site will last much longer once the McCloud/PA thing fizzles out anyway. Do they have one single day where they don't mention that? Psh. Amateurs."

This came on the heels of a supposed merger proposal from the aforementioned flash site to WvW. However, as we at WvW do not consider ourselves attention-seekers who are "looking for every oportunity to make it big in the internet world.", we are insulted by the assumption by them that we are of their base mindset, and therefore now choose to decline their offer.

We would also like to point out as evidence of our intentions being consistent from the very beginning: With the singular exception of the initial comment on Webcomic Finds, we have never plugged our tabloid. This tabloid exists to lampoon melodrama, and while other people may enjoy it, this for our own enjoyment first and foremost.

WvW freely acknowledges that we stole the original idea, but we are insistent on the fact that we stole it from Webcomic Finds, and we have always accredited the ideas accordingly. We have never heard of the other site prior to this being brought to our attention, but we do not mind their competition.

However, we would like to point out to Messrs. Orange Rocks that if wants to make sure his important emails get through to their destinations, perhaps he should omit the word 'spam' from his email address so that overzealous spam filters do not filter them into the trash. We initally mistook the email as a 419 scam.

We would also like to gently remind Messrs. Orange Rocks that as he certainly had no problem with WvW until he realized he couldn't be part of the show, one might say this looks suspiciously like a case of "sourgrapes". However, we are happy to call it "sour oranges" if it suits them better.

-WvW

Follow Up Addendum:

To be open, following is a copy of the email originally sent to us:

From: Spaces [spam@orangerocks.com]

Webcomic tabloid. Hm...
Ok, so the wheels are turning in my head, and being that this came from
a comic that said "A webcomic tabloid would sell" I imagine that you
might be someone like me, which is someone who's looking for every
oportunity to make it big in the internet world.
I've been making fun of webcomics for several months now via a flash
cartoon at orangerocks.com and someone just showed me your site and I
immediately thought, "Guh. Competition." But then I thought, "Hmm...
potential."
You're writing a newspaper, I'm running a news station. The two seem
like they might work well together, hm?
Not exactly sure how yet, but if you want to check out orangerocks.com
and see if you might think there's some potential in joining forces as
well, we might think about talking further on the matter.
Let me know your thoughts.

Spaces

As we were not interested, we chose not to reply. However, Mr. Orange Rocks does not seem to be able to accept that, and appears to have taken it as a personal affront.

Normally we wouldn't care, but as they accused us of stealing their idea when we stole Webcomic Finds' instead, we feel compelled to point out the fact that as can be seen in the email, they already knew the origin of WvW came from Webcomic Finds and not Orange Rocks. The 'they've copied me' comment was insincere and untrue, and what's more, they knew it.
-WvW

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No Lirpa Deathmatch for 2005 Comic-con

2005-06-21T18:56:00.000-07:00

McCloud writes: "Those of you looking forward to an across-the-aisle duel to the death [with Penny Arcade] at San Diego will have to wait. We've rolled back our booth reservations for Tranquility Base until '06."...

"Those of you who pre-registered for the San Diego Comic Con and have been following recent flamewars got a good laugh this week in the mail. Comic-Con's periodic update has a short interview with me where I talk about what a positive, warm and supportive community webcomics is; obviously conducted before all Hell broke loose."..." they've taken me in as their batty uncle"...Read More

Tim Buckley: "F*** you, Scott Kurtz."

2005-06-20T17:43:00.000-07:00

WvW source Scary Roule reports from Ctrl-Alt-Del:

Tim Buckley rants "...some crap article about webcomics got put up in the Chicago Tribune where, along with some informational inaccuracies, they mention Ctrl+Alt+Del next to PvP and Penny Arcade.

Apparently this has thrown Kurtz into a fit of the 'How dare they mention CAD in the same paragraph as my holier-than-thou comic!"

Elsewhere, the resulting backlash of posters comment on the retracted rant by Scott Kurtz, where the creator of PvP supposedly accused CAD of being a rip-off of Penny-Arcade, and using an unnecessary hyphen in their URL... Read More

Diddly-Squat Lampoons Recent Webcomic Controversy

2005-06-19T13:06:00.000-07:00

The creator calls it "A nice summarization of the events."

Another poster calls it "Another person trying to jump on the great McCloud/PA/Kurtz/Micropayments bandwagon".

What is certain however, that this "topic is getting old".

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Garza: "I keep pussies clean."

2005-06-17T16:23:00.000-07:00

One of our anonymous sources have reported that posters at Cat Garza's livejournal have blasted DJ Coffman, accusing the player of trying to jump on his bandwagon.

Garza: "At least i don't draw strips about star wars!"
Yirmumah: "Go back to your little "spoken word" nonsense and stop trying to be a player hater. DOUCHE!"
Garza: "whoa, shit! don't get your goatee all up in a frazzle..."
Some guy called nvonflue: "...to knock you for riding your PA "plug" to launch a new comic (which you'd be an idiot NOT to do) Is the pot callin' the kettle black. The guy's only posting to gain some of that attention."

In other news, scientists believe they have found signs of intelligent life in the webcomics community. ...Read More

GREAT SCOTTS WHO DEPUBLISH: Violations on Web Ethics

2005-06-16T16:51:00.000-07:00

Stuart Robertson writes on Understanding Depublishing:

"Depublishing is the practice of posting something to the web, often an inflammatory post to a weblog, then removing the inflammatory parts or deleting the content altogether. "... " People would frequently discover entries they linked to or commented on had suddenly disappeared, or been substantially edited, making their own blog entries nonsensical."

Depublishing is alleged to be unethical, as it allows people to squirm their way out of the consequences of their actions. "If you frequently find yourself wanting to depublish content, you should spend more time reflecting on what you've written before putting it online."

If this is the case, then a pair high-profile Scotts are currently guilty of depublishing. ...Read More

Kurtz admits "Maybe I Do Need to See My Mommy."

2005-06-16T16:33:00.000-07:00

One of WvW's anonymous sources has revealed that "Scott Kurtz posted on his main site a rant against the way in which the history of webcomics is being recorded. He also posted a response to some e-mail he'd recieved, which really does include that quote."

However, Kurtz appears to have done a McCloud and pulled the rant from his site, replacing it with a tamer version of his earlier rant, which reputedly contained an angry tirade about protegés Blank Label Comics' press release being ignored completely by the reviewer. A fragment quoted on Comixpedia is all that remains of the original rant:

"Leslie Walker at the Washington post contacted the guys at Blank Label comics last week to inquire about doing an article about them. The Blank Label press release had made its way to her and she wanted to write a blurb on them in her next “dot com” column.

In the course of interviewing BLC, Leslie learned that there was a whole world of webcomics out there and decided to investigate further. The blurb on Blank Label, which was supposed to be published Thursday, never saw the light of day. Leslie decided instead to dedicate her entire column to webcomics and where they were heading." ...Read More

Joey Manley: "I Never Said That!"

2005-06-16T16:24:00.000-07:00

Modern Tales Head Honcho Joey Manley insists that he has been misquoted in the recent Washington Post article on webcomics in which he was reputed to have been in support of the advertising model.

The article runs: "...Manley also publishes other subscription comic sites but has concluded that advertising represents the industry's future. So he is preparing to launch Webcomicsnation, a site that will offer unlimited Web space to any cartoonist for $7 a month. Manley hopes to turn a profit selling ads."

"For the record, I never said, nor do I believe, that "advertising is the future of online comics." Also, webcomicsnation will not be providing me with any advertising revenue. That is not the model at all." Mr. Manley denies vehemently. ...Read More

"Reputable Publications" Looking to Spread a Little Misinformation on Webcomics

2005-06-16T14:58:00.000-07:00

WvW source Stuart Robertson writes that both The Washington Post and the Chicago Tribune and have conscended to post articles on webcomics.

While we at WvW do not pride ourselves at our accuracy, we have never claimed to be reputable either. However, we have been sniggering and wondering where the reporters have been sourcing their information from. Possibly the year 2000? ...Read More

SECRET PUBLICATION: Possible Unknown Scott McCloud Book?

2005-06-15T16:31:00.000-07:00

Dark Rumours have been flying around the industry that there exists another book by Scott McCloud that isn't "Understanding Comics" or "Reinventing Comics", called "Scott McCloud's Guide To Making Money On The Web".

Even Cat Garza, labelled by some a McCloud devotee, admitted: "Yeah, i thought i had copies of all his books, but apparently i missed one". ...Read More

Yirmumah: "Everyone Wants to Be A Player"

2005-06-15T16:20:00.000-07:00

Our sources report that DJ Coffman has decided to take a stab at the current webcomics controversy by insulting a number of people involved in the "Webcomics Drama Mama":

DJ writes: "Scott McCloud posted a slam at Penny Arcade, than later took it down. Scott McCloud=>PUSSY. Then, the gentle Hippy looking guy, Cat Garza who doesn’t like mean people on the internet just posted on Comixpedia that Jonathen Rosenberg of GOATS was “Stupid” or whatever. Cat, who hasn’t produced a comic in months, now with all the attention given his way as the poster child for the silly documentary, now has his NEW MagicInkwell comics up. Wonder how long he can keep that updating? Cat Garza = Douchebag."

"Yirmumah= A bunch of asshats who call people names and jump to conclusions. (thought we’d say it before anyone else did)"...Read More

Rosenburg: "Should I sacrifice my income to satisfy your curiosity? "

2005-06-15T15:52:00.000-07:00

Creator of Goats, Jon Rosenburg, in response to the suggestion to extend the Goats Bitpass experiment for a longer period: "I fully admit (in my post, incidentally) that other factors could potentially be causing our decrease in merchandise, but given the overall increase in traffic levels and the links from similar large websites that we got at the same time last year, I'm at a loss as to what those factors might be."

"If the BitPass stuff is potentially hurting our established, extremely profitable revenue model, do you really think it would be smart to keep it up for another year? "... "We have made 20 times what we made from the entire week of BitPass sales in the last 24 hours after the experiment ended due to merchandise sales" ...Read More

"I'd hardly call it a 'failure'" says Cat Garza

2005-06-15T15:46:00.000-07:00

Cat Garza insists that the results of one week's experiment is not conclusive to whether micropayments are a success or failure.

He argues: "Jon puts his minicomics up for one week and already deems it a failure?! jesus. that's just stupid."... "I say leave it up for a year and see where it goes. a week of sales doesn't really prove anything. maybe he IS selling less than he did last year, but i mean... he might be at that point regardless of the bitpass thing, you know?" ...Read More

Robert Balder: "Reinventing Comics the Great False Prophecy of Our Time"

2005-06-15T15:32:00.000-07:00

Readers on a Comixpedia comment thread are currently debating the effectiveness of micropayments, some going to the length of writing dissertations on paradigms and how they apply to micropayments.

Robert Balder, creator of PartiallyClips writes: "...as a businessman, I've been calling bullshit on micropayments from shortly after the outset. It's not a model, it's a paradigm. It's one of those great "if only everybody did this" ideas that have too little bearing on the real world to merit the attention they're paid." ...Read More

THE END IS NIGH: Micropayments a failure?

2005-06-14T16:46:00.000-07:00

Goats writes: "Scott McCloud challenged us to give BitPass a try almost two years ago."... "The idea was that it would show if his intial success was more than just good press and curious folks checking it out; it would show that this was a sustainable business model."

"So it's been a full week since we began our micropayments experiment."... "the BitPass experiment was a conclusive and absolute failure. It failed on such a tremendous level that I was surprised when we discovered new and previously unimagined ways in which it could have failed. It failed so badly that we actually lost money."

Doomsayers have already begun running amok, declaring: "THESE ARE THE END TIMES!!" ...Read More

The Future of Webcomics: Everyone will already be a Webcartoonist

2005-06-14T16:30:00.000-07:00

The Modern Humour Authority writes concerning the Gaza Documentary Controversy: "Webcomics will replace the telephone"... "Until recently, anyone could be a webcartoonist"... "Webcomics will no longer be limited as 'stories in comic format on the web'".

Response from the audience to the idea was reputed to be "Meh. That was sooooo last week.".

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Slashdotters Controvert Comixpedia's Copyright and Creative Commons Composition

2005-06-13T17:30:00.000-07:00

Comixpedia's latest article on creative commons has garnered the attention of the Slashdotters.

Profound discussions range from "... Profit leads to greed, greed leads to envy, envy leads to hatred, and HATE... LEADS TO SUFFERING!" to "You sound like some sort of insane communist. Go and crawl back in your hole." to the discussion of the role of lawyers.

The resulting Slashdot effect is reputed to have caused a strain on the servers hosting one of the linked comics (Queen of Wands), resulting in general slowness thoughout Keenspot-Land. ...Read More

Artist Denies Trying to Shrink Pond

2005-06-12T16:14:00.000-07:00

The mystery artist who clashed with Notorious William G several days ago asserts the backlash was a result of the latter implying the former was attempting to "make sure the pond doesn't get bigger".

"I really didn't like the fingerpointing." says the artist. "That W.G. pointed his finger at me as a danger"... "is odd.". This was in response to the accusation from N.W.G that "his [Artist's] attitude, and the attitudes of like-minded people, damage us all."

William G was reputed to have denied this by saying "I never called you a danger", and then proceeded to accuse the artist of kinky flagellation practices.

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BREAKTHROUGH: Possible Solution Found for Webcomics Malady!

2005-06-12T15:52:00.000-07:00

Researchers working overtime on a Websnark thread believe they have found the cure to the productivity virus Onlinecomics melodramacitis, commonly known as "Webcomics Drama". The cure, dubbed "Webcartoonist Deathmatch", has yet to be practically implemented due to high working costs, but it is hopeful that with proper funding, this may be eventually possible in the future.

One of the brainstormers involved says: "Just think how great it will be to have deathmatch between the greatest names (and egos) of our little industry. Only one will survive."

An artist's impression of how "Webcomics Deathmatch" would work is available here. ...Read More

Gabe: "Scott McCloud is lying to Artists"

2005-06-11T11:48:00.000-07:00

Gabe comments: "If you wanted to go into space would you rather get advice from Neil Armstrong or Orson Scott Card? "... "A comic that hits the web as a pay strip will never get the audience that a free strip like say CAD or Goats has."... "There are a lot of artists out there who are actually doing what he only talks about and none of them are using his methods." ...Read More

SUDDEN DISAPPEARANCE: Fears for "Life" over Art Critic's Webcomic Backlash

2005-06-11T10:07:00.000-07:00

WvW source Frank Lee reports that controversial webcomics critique site Delineated Life has mysteriously disappeared from the net since June 7th.

However, further reports indicate that on June 6th, notorious webcomic critic William "G" George was once again involved in a heated dispute with a webcomics artist over a Webcomics Examiner article written over a year ago. A veteran of the Flame Wars, William G has gotten himself into fights with other webcomic personalities before, including Scott Kurtz and Penny Arcade.

Many speculate that William G may have now been driven underground as a result of serious threats from the backlash. The following is a forwarded message, puporting to be one of many more:

Dear Willie G.

Eat sh** you herpes infested sperm depository from h***, shut your auto-fellatic hole or put it to good use you semen slurping sh** princess.

Sincerely...

--A****

A short, misspelled and disturbing post from the site owner has now taken the place of the blog: "I am wastng my creative time. Wasting it blogging. Wasting it on webcomic commentary. So it's time to break the habit." Some suspect foul play, claiming that such incoherence is out of character for William G, and the message may well have been written under coercion.

While the other artist involved in the dispute has yet to be named, it is rumoured to be a "popular web cartoonist with a large and rabid following." ...Read More

McCloud Backs Down!

2005-06-10T17:21:00.000-07:00

Comics critic, Scott McCloud, has withdrawn his open letter demanding an apology from Penny-Arcade. He writes: "I've decided to remove the Tycho essay... Sorry for that 24 hour lapse in judgement..."

Speculation now among the WvW staff is that 24-hour lapses in judgements may be replacing 24-hour comics in the near future as the new trend among webcomic artists. ...Read More

EXCLUSIVE PICTURES: Some Guy Farks Penny Arcade!

2005-06-10T07:02:00.000-07:00

Another guy called BlueGargoyle wrote: "I'm so sorry Tycho.", while a third accuses: "Jerry love Mike!!"

A fourth detractor named RobSwiat states: "Not a big fan of Penny-Arcade, PVP is better" ...Read More

KURTZ DEFENDS ALLEGED BROWBEATERS: "The Truth" is "Lost"!

2005-06-10T06:01:00.000-07:00

Scott Kurtz alleges: "Both Scott and Jerry (Tycho) are decent men... passionate..." "99% of the post attacked concepts and philosophies. I think it's unfair to twist that post into some kind of personal attack on any one person...." "Had Tycho not posted that screen cap, and had Gabe drawn anonymous people in the strip instead of doing caricatures of Cat and John, nobody would have cared." ...Read More

Scott McCloud "is a charlatan" says Tycho

2005-06-09T18:13:00.001-07:00

Tycho writes: "Penny Arcade essentially represents "entrenched success" for many people, and it is resented, perhaps even reviled, and I can understand why because we're super entrenched... I was being sardonic when I typed that into MSN... We will never see eye to eye on this... imagine if Moses had lead the Israelites not to the promised land, but to an empty fucking parking lot..." ...Read More
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Gabe and Tycho "A Couple of Culeros" says Cat Garza

2005-06-09T14:05:00.000-07:00

Cateyeno writes: "of course that shit hurt my feelings..." "why not focus that energy on making more comic strips instead of calling bullshit on ppl. or playing some more video games to get out some of that misdirected aggression..." ...Read More

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Alexis Christoforides said...
GASP!

6/10/2005 12:36 AM

PENNY-ARCADE'S SECRET AGENDA: Truth Behind Cat Garza Documentary Debacle!!

2005-06-09T09:44:00.000-07:00

Scott McCloud writes: "Tycho's critique comes down to this: Somebody made a documentary about Digital Comics and once again ignored Penny Arcade ...but makers of this documentary contacted Penny-Arcade twice asking Tycho and Gabe to be involved in the documentary and they never responded... ...Read More

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Erik said...
What the... I though this was my job.

/Erik "GiantPanda" Melander

6/09/2005 2:55 PM

Webcomic Tabloids an "AWESOME idea!" says Ping Teo

2005-06-09T09:20:00.000-07:00

Some guy called xmung says: "Forget "player v player" - it's "webcartoonist v webcartoonist"! It's fun watching it from the stalls." ...Read More

9.20am Jun 9 2005

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starline
said...
This is a great idea! :)
6/10/2005 12:12 AM

starline
said...
Although, I think you should open the comments section up for non-blogger account comments.
6/10/2005 12:14 AM

william g
said...
I do hope someone keeps this up.
6/10/2005 2:19 AM

ping @ phalanx
said...
Oh my God, I've created a monster.  ...  Nice monster.
6/10/2005 2:29 AM

wvw
said...
"Although, I think you should open the comments section up for non-blogger account comments."  Crud, I didn't notice that.   -WvW
6/10/2005 8:16 AM

"McCloud and Manley Hyptonize Artists using Kool-Aid" Accuses Goats

2005-06-08T11:41:00.000-07:00

Goats writes: "Cat Garza"... "drank a bit too much of the Modern Tales/McCloud Kool Aid, along with some other substances that we have been unable to identify (or procure for ourselves) as of yet"... "and the rest of the MT artists are so hypnotized by McCloud and Manley that they don't stop to think that their business model, ther digital revolution isn't really taking off at all. Micropayments and walled-off content are not revolutionizing the industry" ...Read More

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Eric Burns: "Penny-Arcade" are "Mean"

2005-06-08T11:27:00.000-07:00

Websnark writes: "They're taking glee in tormenting this guy who's never done a thing to them and who couldn't do a thing to them if he wanted to. They mock how he looks and what he says and they just generally tear him down at the moment when he probably felt the best about himself and his art as he ever had... "That's not editorializing and it sure as Hell isn't deflating the pretensions of others. It's. Just. Mean."... "I should have opened up my web browser, gone to Movable Type, and said in a loud, clear, and utterly clear voice fuck you, you assholes!. I didn't, and I'm ashamed of myself because I didn't." ...Read More

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